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Breaking Dawn was...

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Postby Shari Joy on Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:15 am

Well I'm glad they got hacked after that 'manifesto', they're so controlling. Lexicon says "All opinions besides the ones we believe in are STUPID!" *rolls eyes* They need to get over themselves. Moving on.

I am SO THRILLED that I was not the only one who thought Bella being great at everything was frustrating. It wasn't the sacrifices I was missing, it was the flaws. While I was reading, I felt like maybe I was being strangely jealous of this fictional character, but it really was just that everything was so damned easy for her. She was suddenly so graceful, and she has this amazing control over her emotions, and she's a strong mother, and her powers are wow-ing everyone - it was like everything that made her Bella was taken away from her when she became a vampire - and not that I loved Bella as a human, but to change your main character completely... I was at the point where If I see one more "We're just so amazed, Bella" or "She's simply incredible" I was gonna be done with the book.

I think Stephenie felt a lot of pressure to make everyone happy with this last book 'cause let's face it, Twihards are scary, so she ended up kind of giving up on any realistic outcomes that she seemed to have in mind before. Meh, I dono! Somethin like that... I can relate though, endings are always the hardest for me when I (try to) write.

It's just, most were expecting and excited for Bella to be this crazy newborn and having to get through the obstacles because of it, and then suddenly... it doesn't happen.
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Postby Em Cee on Tue Aug 12, 2008 1:34 pm

Stephenie did say that this ending was already in her mind. I think that the baby and stuff were in forever dawn, but then she wrote new moon and eclipse, and of course, keeping the same end, it doesn't fit

there are many many MANY fans who love Twilight, New moon, and Eclipse, but absolutely hate Breaking dawn, it's... like whoa! There are even petitions, and stuff, they are all over the internet, I still have to find some positive comments, lol
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Postby Frequently_Dazzled13 on Tue Aug 12, 2008 2:16 pm

I see your point with Bella having no sacrifices and stuff, but I guess when I read, I like to escape reality, and I liked it...lol. [wink]

It's funny that I understand all of the negative points of the book, but I cannot bring myself to dislike the book. [confused] I do see that the book has some 'quirks' where I'm like, "Hmm..." But it never made me dislike the book.

I only expressed my annoyance at certain parts, but the only thing I truly disliked, but got used to was 'Renesmee' Lol.
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Postby Shari Joy on Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:56 pm

That's why I read too, to escape reality, but that was not a place I'd want to escape to, it was just.. EW had a good word for it - bizarre. It was nothing like the world that the first 3 books were in =/ I'm glad there are ppl who did like it though, I'd feel bad for Stephenie if everyone hated it
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Postby Frequently_Dazzled13 on Tue Aug 12, 2008 8:03 pm

That'd be awful if no one liked it. It was evident she wanted everyone to be happy with it, and didn't want any sacrifices to be made...but heck, I dunno. I'm probably done with this topic because I'm being really redundant...lol.

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Postby TaylovesEdward on Wed Sep 17, 2008 4:21 pm

Em Cee wrote:
Frequently_Dazzled13 wrote:To tell you the truth. I liked Jake's narration, but I agree, I'm much more used to Bella and stuff. I like her perspective.

I thank Stephenie Meyer whole heartedly for Jake's perspective during the pregnancy thing...because in the beginning I was sooooo annoyed at Bella and Rose. At the time, I was grateful, because if I had to read 300 pages of Bella thinking, "I love my baby, no one will harm it. Ow! You broke my rib! Oh well, no one will harm my baby! No one! Not even if it kills me!"

I swear I would've gone insane. No lie. Her perspective probably would've been the most annoying thing during that. [confused]


You've just described every thought I had about that, amazing!

Frequently_Dazzled13 wrote:Just like I knew with all of the eggs and the throwing up of the chicken and stuff, I was like, "SHE'S PREGNANT!" Lol.

About that too

Ok, now, let me think...

I read the first Bella part, 7 chapters, I think. My head was about to explode, that was so NOT like the other books, I was wondering if I was reading something else, but then I read what wikipedia said about that and I knew it was the real thing, though it was so unreal

And I have to say. whoa! I remember the first thread I read on IMDB: Things that'll never happen in Breaking Dawn or something like that, and the first reply was "Edward, I'm pregnant". Can you say WRONG?!

I had to stop reading because it was really late. The next day I thought about what I'd read, [none]. And, in my opinion, two things could happen after that: a) the baby was normal b) the baby was going to eat Bella from the inside *shudder*

And then I was reaaally happy that the next part was from Jake's POV, I really like him now, and I really wanted to hit Bella and rip Rose's head off, but peace, my friends.

I still was like "Should I read? Should I wait?" But damn, I wanted to discuss it!

And...and...I have to think. Sorry about the long post, lol, hope it all made sense.

Edit: let me add one more thing and then you can kill me for writing such a long comment. Renesmee? WTH? I mean, the intention was good, and I love Carlie, but I still don't like it...well, maybe it's because I don't know how to pronounce it. GO NESSIE. And I didn't like the other option "Edward Jacob"?!

hah I agree. I thought Renesmee was going to kill her. And about the name at first I was like What the crap? Whyyyyyy? I liked Carlie it was cute and kinda normal...and you know like everyone else that Bella needs ONE normal thing going on... And at first I kinda hated the name Nessie, I mean it bugged the heck out of me! But like Edward and EVERYONE else the name Nessie grew on me and I found myself saying it cus I mean who can actually say Renesmee and pronounce it CLEARLY.
ooohhhh and..and.. I wanted Rose to DIE. I HATED her. I never really liked her at all. I mean I understood her her for a short period of time when I first read her stories on when she was human and all that but during the whole pregnancy I HATED her. At every point I found myself yelling at my book saying "God Edward Jake KILL HER!" lol
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Postby Frequently_Dazzled13 on Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:36 pm

Man, Carlie would have been such an awesome name! I can't stop thinking it, lol. Even though Renesmee has completely grown on me.

Aww, I loved Eclipse, Rose. Lol. She got quite annoying in BD, but I think it all worked out in the end.

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Postby TwilightTwin356 on Wed Sep 17, 2008 10:35 pm

Hey, welcome to the forum! c:

Carlie sounds really pretty to me. But I guess Renesmee has grown on me now. And I have a friend named Vanessa and people call her Nessie or Ness. :P
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Postby TaylovesEdward on Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:14 am

Frequently_Dazzled13 wrote:Man, Carlie would have been such an awesome name! I can't stop thinking it, lol. Even though Renesmee has completely grown on me.

Aww, I loved Eclipse, Rose. Lol. She got quite annoying in BD, but I think it all worked out in the end.

Welcome to the forum by the way, TaylovesEdward!

I understood her more in Eclipse. But In BD her and Bella made me soooo angry lol.

Renesmee grewq on me like Nessie did, but I still dont know if I'm even saying it right. And I always have to like double check to see if I spelled it right.

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Postby TaylovesEdward on Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:19 am

I was wondering if I'm alone on this,
Did anyone get to the part where they were on their honeymoon and she woke up and said "Why am I covered in feathers?" and you couldnt start reading again because you couldn't help but laugh so hard....?
Because I kept saying it over and over and over again and I couldn't read very well after that. (:
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Postby TaylovesEdward on Thu Sep 18, 2008 5:23 am

TwilightTwin356 wrote:Hey, welcome to the forum! c:

Carlie sounds really pretty to me. But I guess Renesmee has grown on me now. And I have a friend named Vanessa and people call her Nessie or Ness. :P
Thankls :]
I knowww I love the name Carlie! Hah At first I was with Bella on the whole Nessie thing, like WHYYYY call her that!? and then I was mad about it all and I decided to stick with Nessie because every time I spent like mins trying to figure out how to say it lol.
Its cute though how she had names for just the people she loved like that, but Edward Jacob.....NOOOOO... its like hey lets throw total enemys and name it my child basically and see how that goes since I mean now she's got a wolf imprinted on her and hey her whole family except like her Grandparents on her mom's side are all a bunch a Vampires! lol
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Postby Frequently_Dazzled13 on Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:06 pm

Haha, all so true.

About the pillow thing. I did laugh pretty hard, especially when Edward told her what he did. My friend and I were really laughing because we were picturing the scene in the movie to go like this...

Bella: Why am I covered in feathers?

Edward: I um, I bit a pillow...*Serious face*

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Rob as Edward, biting a pillow and ripping it to pieces whilst making scary growling puppy noises....

******END FLASHBACK****

Edward: *Serious face again: Yes, I bit a pillow.


Or something like that, lol. We couldn't help but think it. ^_^
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Postby TaylovesEdward on Thu Sep 18, 2008 7:49 pm

Hahaha that soooo put an image in my mind!

You and your friend have AWESOME ideas hahah:]

Love itt...

What if they did BD as a movie? It'd be like WOAH. lol.
They'd have to get Renesmee PEREFECT, or else it would all be wrong.
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Postby Frequently_Dazzled13 on Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:54 pm

Haha, heck yeah we do. [cool] Lol.


A BD movie would be crazy. I'm not sure if Rob and Kristen would even be up for it...lol. A pregnant Bella...pretty much eating the baby out of the womb... weird stuff...lol.

I think Stephenie totally said that no actress could ever play Renesmee in her mind, and she'd have to be like computer generated or something...lol. They'd totally have to get an actress though. I have no idea what little girl could do it, but yes, she'd have to be really good. [confused]
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Postby TaylovesEdward on Fri Sep 19, 2008 5:07 am

I agree
Hah Kristen and Rob prob wouldn't... who knows?
True I mean it'd be super hard to find a little kid good enough for the part!
Btw. I like your signature! :]
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Postby Frequently_Dazzled13 on Fri Sep 19, 2008 10:27 am

Very true. A litle girl who could show all those signs of understanding and speaking with such eloquence...not too easy to find...lol.

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Postby TaylovesEdward on Fri Sep 19, 2008 1:44 pm

lol true
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Postby TaylovesEdward on Fri Sep 19, 2008 4:16 pm

Another questionnn!
What's your opinon on the whole Jake giving up on Bella living thing that happened in BD?
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Postby Frequently_Dazzled13 on Sat Sep 20, 2008 1:16 am

Oh, like, when she died, and he just kind of walked out? Is that what you're talking about?


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Postby TaylovesEdward on Sat Sep 20, 2008 1:52 am

Yeah how he walked out and gave up unlike Edward. I think it was mostly because he didnt know about all the heart beating, venom stuff...what do you think?

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Postby Shari Joy on Sat Sep 20, 2008 2:08 am

I probably wouldn't be very good in this conversation, but I just wanted to say HI Tay, in case I hadn't before =) welcome to the forum
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Postby Frequently_Dazzled13 on Sat Sep 20, 2008 12:41 pm

Well, I don't really know. I mean, Jake was sad and stuff, and he gave up very easily, and since I was always Team Edward, I guess it went to show how much Edward loved her. Jake was beginning to realize that the crush on her was dissolving I guess?

Man, I'm horrible at answering this...lol. [cool]
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Postby TaylovesEdward on Sat Sep 20, 2008 2:09 pm

Shari Joy wrote:I probably wouldn't be very good in this conversation, but I just wanted to say HI Tay, in case I hadn't before =) welcome to the forum
Hello :]
And thanks :]
You guys can call me Taylor if you want lol.
&& I want to hear your opionons even if you HATED Jake or Edward or the entire book. (:
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Postby TaylovesEdward on Sat Sep 20, 2008 2:12 pm

I kinda agree with you. I mean Jake did get something out of it..Nessie!:]
But I think he got out because of the way he did love Bella, because I personally wouldn't be able to watch someone I loved like that die. And thats just what Jacob thought was that Bella was dead and nothing could bring her back.
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Postby Shari Joy on Sat Sep 20, 2008 3:43 pm

I just don't remember many of the specifics. I didn't like the book very much. The last 10 or so chapters were good, that's the only part I liked. I don't wanna see the 4th book turned into a movie, it'd just be weird.
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